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  • Teddy Atlas: Trainer, Ringside Analyst, and now a Podcaster

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    By Arne K. Lang

    As a teenager, Teddy Atlas was a troublemaker. One could have predicted that he would grow into a man who would get thrown out of places. And that has proved true. He’s been thrown out of London and thrown out of Australia.

    Ah, but we are getting ahead of ourselves.

    Atlas needs no introduction. During a 21-year-career as a ringside analyst with ESPN, his face and distinctive voice became synonymous with boxing. Since leaving that role with the network – not of his own volition – he has transitioned into a podcaster while continuing to bob up now and then as the trainer of an important boxer seeking to elevate his game.

    Atlas didn’t quite know what a podcast was when he was approached to do the audio program. Anything “high tech” was never his bag. He still doesn’t e-mail.

    Rob Mohr, the founder and partner of a public relations firm called Hit Hard Media, pitched the idea to Teddy. “He said to me, ‘Listen Teddy, I think you have a voice that should be heard and I think there’s an audience out there,’” recalled Atlas. But Teddy would not have come on board if his daughter Nicole, an attorney, hadn’t pushed him to give it a try. (Atlas also has a son, Teddy III, who is the assistant director of college scouting for the Las Vegas Raiders with aspirations of someday becoming an NFL GM).

    Mohr serves as the producer of the podcast which is done in a studio in New York. Mohr’s friend Ken Rideout is Teddy’s sidekick on the podcast which is called "THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas." Mohr and Rideout, who reside on opposite coasts, New York and California, have a Massachusetts tie and a shared passion for long-distance running. Mohr is one of the world’s top amateur triathletes.

    Rideout is a financial advisor. He had no previous connection to boxing, unless one were to count the time that he was a prison guard working alongside Micky Ward. But he has always been a big fan of the sport. “Commenting on boxing is like my dream job,” he says. On the air, Atlas, who has a tendency to ramble, does most of the talking.

    Mohr’s assumption was prophetic; there is indeed an audience out there. The podcast has been running a little over a year. As of last week, the episodes had attracted over 10 million views, one million downloads, and 800,000 subscriptions. Atlas’s unfiltered take on all things pugilistic is a welcome respite in a sport saturated with hyperbole and chicanery. Teddy doesn’t care if some of his opinions rile the fat cats at the top of the boxing food chain. We suspect he rather enjoys it.

    Before he started talking into a microphone, Teddy Atlas attracted notice as a trainer. A disciple of the late Cus D’Amato, who molded Floyd Patterson and Mike Tyson into world heavyweight champions, Atlas has been associated with 18 world title-holders. He gave up training several years ago, but teaching is in his blood and he would be lured back on several occasions. Most recently, he handled Oleksandr Gvozdyk for three fights beginning with Gvozdyk’s upset of Adonis Stevenson, an 11th round stoppage that earned the Ukrainian the lineal light heavyweight title.

    Atlas didn’t reach out to Gvozdyk. Egis Klimas, Gvozdyk’s promoter, reached out to him. But Atlas wouldn’t give his consent until he got to know the fighter a little better.

    “My only qualification was that he had to be a decent person; a person I would like to be around,” says Atlas who had previously applied the same yardstick to Tim Bradley. Before taking on Bradley, who reached out to him, Teddy spent three days with Bradley in Bradley’s hometown of Palm Springs.

    Teddy Atlas is a no-nonsense trainer, a hard taskmaster. He concedes that his style isn’t for everyone. But a trainer of Atlas’s stripe would seem to be an especially good fit for a boxer with a reputation for being a slacker. It was inevitable that his name would be linked with former heavyweight champion Andy Ruiz who weighed an ungainly 283 ½ pounds for his rematch with Anthony Joshua.

    We broached the subject of him possibly training Ruiz during a long telephone conversation with Atlas on Sunday. He told us what he then told his listeners the next day. Yes, Ruiz’s people had reached out to him and there was one follow-up call, but that was it; they never called back. And he told them that if they wished to explore it further, then Ruiz would have to come to New York so that they could get further acquainted, “so I could see how comfortable I am with the fighter and if he and his team would be comfortable with me.”

    Atlas did not reveal that he had these conversations until someone at the other end let the cat out of the bag. However, on Monday’s podcast, he came with a meticulous list of things that Andy Ruiz could do to improve, both inside and outside the ropes. The list had the scent of a job application.

    In addition to being a noted trainer and broadcaster, Teddy Atlas is also known as a great philanthropist.

    He started the Dr. Theodore A. Atlas Foundation, named for his late father who practiced medicine in Staten Island for 55 years, doing house calls until he was 80 years old, and built two hospitals, the first a 22-bed unit that was eventually purchased by the city and torn down to make way for the Verrazano Bridge and the second a unit roughly three times as large that lasted for 35 years. At these facilities, Dr. Atlas administered to the poor, performing tonsillectomies and delivering babies and such, for free. (There were no HMOs in those days, notes Atlas.)

    The Dr. Atlas Foundation, in a nutshell, helps people in need, covering the cost of hospital care, building ramps for the handicapped, and whatnot. Thanksgiving means free turkeys for the poor and Christmas means free toys for the kids. The foundation, notes the well-known New York sportswriter Wallace Matthews, “raises money and puts it directly into the hands of the people who need it, without being funneled through the hands of highly paid fundraisers and publicists.”

    The foundation holds an annual dinner. The most recent edition was the twenty-third. At the dinner, sportscaster Bob Ley, the longest tenured employee at ESPN when he retired last June, was presented an award named for the late investigative reporter Jack Newfield. “He was my friend, a gutsy writer who didn’t care about the repercussions,” says Atlas of the man who wrote “Only in America: The Life and Crimes of Don King.” The foundation also honors Newfield by helping to subsidize a scholarship for a journalism student at Hunter College, Jack Newfield’s alma mater.

    The annual Dr. Theodore A. Atlas Foundation dinner is held on the Thursday before Thanksgiving. “For whatever reason,” says Atlas, “my dad always took off on Thursdays. In my mind, it was the only day of the week that he could join us (in spirit).”

    The foundation also supports youth programs which until recently included three boxing gyms, two on Staten Island and one in Brooklyn. The gyms were formerly run by the Police Athletic League which backed out under pressure from “reformers” who thought that the instructors were teaching kids how to fight rather than how to box.

    Teddy balked at keeping the gyms afloat, but reconsidered. “I came to see them as havens,” he says, “as shelters.” But he insisted that certain rules had to be followed. Among them, a boy had to bring his report card to stay enrolled and he had to pull up his pants.

    By one measure, these gyms -- The Dr. Atlas Cops & Kids Gyms -- were enormously successful. Atlas guesses that they produced 100 Golden Gloves champions. Alumni include U.S. Olympian and future light heavyweight champion Marcus Browne, Chris Colbert, currently ranked #1 at 130 pounds by the WBA, and two hot young prospects who were lured out of the amateur ranks by Eddie Hearn: middleweight Nikita “White Chocolate” Abibay and welterweight Reshat Mati.

    As these gyms were becoming powerhouses, they lost track of their mission, says Atlas, with the result that Dr. Atlas’s name is no longer attached to them. Asked if he was particularly proud of one of the former attendees, Atlas cited a girl from Brooklyn who was living in a car with her mother when she started attending the Flatbush gym. She is now serving in the U.S. Navy.

    Okay, about those instances when Teddy Atlas was 86ed, kicked out the door as if he were toxic:

    The first occurred in London at the 2012 Olympics, his fourth for NBC. Some of the scores turned in by the judges were head-scratchers which was nothing new for Olympic boxing. “Corruption was happening right before my eyes,” says Atlas. Referencing a bus that brought Olympic officials to London, he said on the air “they should turn that into a Department of Corrections bus and get them out of here.”

    Dr. Ching-Kuo Wu, the Taiwanese architect who was the president of AIBA, the international governing body of amateur boxing, had Atlas and his broadcast partner Bob Papa physically removed from the arena.

    The second incident occurred in July of 2017 in Brisbane, Australia, where Atlas worked the welterweight title fight between Manny Pacquiao and Brisbane-native Jeff Horn. The title changed hands when Horn, a massive underdog, won a unanimous decision. The decision didn’t sit well with Atlas whose commentary during the fight was deemed by the locals and others to be very biased toward Horn.

    After the fight, there was talk of a rematch with speculation that the fight would go back to Australia. Dean Lonergan, Jeff Horn’s promoter, said that if that were to be the case, then he would demand that ESPN remove Atlas from the broadcasting team. And barring that, he told reporters, “I will lobby the Immigration Minister to not allow Teddy Atlas through our border.”

    Ever the cynic, Atlas still believes that the decision favoring Jeff Horn was a “business decision.” And as for being persona non grata in Australia, Atlas quips, “I don’t know if I have been thrown out of better places, but I have never been thrown out of a bigger place.”

    “Telling it like it is” was the self-styled catchphrase of the abrasive sportscaster Howard Cosell, a catchphrase that invited a lot of derision. Teddy Atlas tells it like it is; that catchphrase fits him a lot better than it fitted Cosell. You may not always agree with him, but you know the man is genuine.

    P.S. – A new podcast normally goes up on Mondays. Check it out.

    Check out more boxing news on video at The Boxing Channel

  • #2
    Nice read. Teddy is no saint but he does a lot of good and is well-respected.
    Last edited by Kid Blast; 04-08-2020, 06:49 AM.

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    • #3
      I think Teddy and Bob Papa were a perfect match. I would like to hear Teddy talk about those times. I just think they really clicked, hit it off. Maybe Teddy could get him on his Podcast? But yea Atlas told it like he saw it and was not affaid to stand his ground. You got to respect that or at least I do. He got several guys starting in calling the fights on the air. He got Tim into the broadcast if I remember right, then another guy came along what was his name going blank here. I remember that Joe Tess came along later in the whole ESPN boxing deal. Am I worng? I seem to remeber that Teddy helped Joe T. get into it as a voice a commentator right? Then somehow a guy a writter got to start doing the fights Kriegel if I am correct. What sticks in my mind is that Atlas was angry when Kriele showed up to broadcast with him. Started asking some real quesions on the air to Kreigel about boxing and at some point Joe T. interrupted Atlas. I thought the man helped you get in deep with the fights on espn now you are telling his to quiet down. Hey I do not have tape or perfect memory so it might just be a personal way that I remember it but it is how I remember it. Teddy was gone soon after that broadcast. I was glad when I saw he had a podcast and the work he is doing with Gvosdyk wondered if those two would stick it out after his loss. He spoke about it working with him still just recently. Anyhow enough out of me.

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      • Kid Blast
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        BUT, notwithstanding all of his attributes (and they are many), Teddy plays into what I call---for lack of a better name--boxing snobbery. A look at who gets invited to his annual banquet points to some of that. He has company. There are some ex-boxers and posters out there who have no use for anyone who is not a boxer. This is a disingenuous path because without fans and posters and writers, there would be no boxers. Even guys like Rafael and Merchant give/gave fans their due. When Teddy id that thing with Raul before the fights, that was a good thing because it got the fan s engaged. BTW, his book was a very good read. The only part I didn't like was the chapter about Sammy the Bull aka Rat. The rest was good stuff.

    • #4
      Yes I am sure you are correct in the snobbery part Kid, I am in a bit of a thing right here looking at how boxing and the fan interact. I wrote a few things just for kicks or to get it out of my system I hope one day to have a real converstation about the state of the boxing fan. You seem to have been around the fight game for a while do you have a take? Or shoule I post that on another section. I dont do well on computers or the like just something I missed out on was busy so to speak. Like I said the way it is laid out, put out on just the forums podcast(which are somewhat new to me) there is a lot going on that I do not recall in boxing talk. But I may be out of line talking under the Atlas banner right now? Funny you mention snobery I was at a fight several years ago Teddy was doing the commentary for espn ah it was a while ago but it came to mind as far as approaching Teddy after the main bout. not saying he was out of line or nothing just was on my mind when I posted, interesting you brought it up is all. Once again not calling anyone out of line. Jezz hope I made that clear. Always good to talk the fight game.

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      • Kid Blast
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        I've been a fan for over 70 years. Boxing and Modern Jazz have stayed with me since the 8th grade. Maybe sex, too.

    • #5
      Well I have been around boxing to some degree for like over 50 years but the dept of my interest in boxing has always been to different degree. Music has always kept me going the Blues of course what else is there I got bit by the blues bug back in well around the same time as boxing I suppose. There was always two things in my home coming up.. and in my homes as I got older and that is a TV with fights on and a nice stereo with a great record collection. Must be a partern I started listening to a podcast by Kurt is that his name on Fistinados and he was deep into Jazz and boxing all his life. Not Kurt but the guy who just wrote a book on boxing Acevedo if I am correct in the spelling great interview I watched some but he mentioned a fight and went to youtube to re watch it so got diverted all for the good these days. As far as sex i do not belive I started playing the blues to find woman but when I found out it impressed them so much the better. So I still play just not as much. Blues that is.... Thanks for the kick back......

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        The trick is watching a fight while listening to Little Jimmy Reed !!!!!!!!
        Last edited by Kid Blast; 04-10-2020, 08:29 AM.

    • #6
      Yea big boss man works good to watch a fight to, also some good walk out cuts in the LP. Go with Big Boss Man> "YOU Anint so big you just tall thats all".

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      • Kid Blast
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        Yes. You got it!

    • #7
      OK Kid so was watching or fell into several of Rosario earlyer fights and the combo of fighter artist or music was early Elvis Presely all of the early Sun Studios recordings very nice fit Rosario with that screw it going in swinging already trust the power style his has matched up well and no announcers which can be nice after you know the fight conditions already. yea buddy they had a nice little thing going on there down south with the blues and rockabilly man does that music kick lot of people missed that style of music or did not know what it was, lot of people missed Rosario and his style until his last fight. Take it light, take a right if you got any left left...... huh where did that come from.

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      • Kid Blast
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        Dammed if I know.
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