Boston Celtics to Draft 1st... Championships Here We Come!

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dino da vinci

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We were do for a run of good luck. Those of you old enough to remember Lenny and Reggie will recall the heartbreak of losing those young men to tragedy. Go Boston! Eight wins away from the next banner.
 
I am born and raised in Cleveland and use to listen to Joe Tait call Cavs games on the radio when I was a kid. Boxing is my first love but the Cavs are not far behind.

Go Cavs.
 
Celtic Pride.

Series now Cleveland 2, Bostonians 1.

If I'm Danny Ainge, Markelle Fultz is now a Celtic. Kid is only 19 and has already stated he has every intention of being next year's MVP. I would also hope Danny stops publicly saying that he'll entertain all overs. Of course you will. That's your job. As for packaging, if we end up with a George or Butler and Fultz goes on to have a legendary career in a competitor's jersey, Danny and I will be suicidal. DON'T DO IT DANNY! :mad:
 
Okay, so the season didn't end quite as well as I hoped. So you look for consolation.

This is about the best I can do:

Golden State and Cleveland have a combined record of 24-1 going into the finals. The one setback? Delivered by Boston.

Future once again looks bright.

Thank You Isaiah and Co. for the huge effort.
 
dino da vinci said:
Okay, so the season didn't end quite as well as I hoped. So you look for consolation.

This is about the best I can do:

Golden State and Cleveland have a combined record of 24-1 going into the finals. The one setback? Delivered by Boston.

Future once again looks bright.

Thank You Isaiah and Co. for the huge effort.
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Dino, I will admit after game 3 I was nervous. Boston looked like a different team without Thomas.

And then game 4 began. In the second quarter, Cleveland was the quietest place in America.

My wife said at halftime I probably paced a few miles around the house.

They gave the Cavs a scare and a wakeup call. As a Cavs fan, I am telling myself moments before game 1 against the Warriors that they needed that wake up call and will be better in the long run. Man I hope I am right.

As for the Celtics, I think we have a rivalry brewing. Not only one this year but an unprotected lottery pick next year from Brooklyn (could be one again). And a stockade of further ***ets after that. It will be interesting to see what Ainge does. Personally, I hope he makes the pick this year and keeps building. I am hopeful the Cavs can get a few more years out of this LeBron era before being challenged in the east.

By the way, who are you pulling for in the Finals?
 
I would make the most money with Cleveland. I bet the Celtics to win it all before the season started. So I hedged that ticket with Cleveland to win it all. Now I'm hedging that ticket with GS. The way I played it, I need either GS in 4, GS in 6, or Cleveland to win it all. GS in 5 or 7 very bad for Dino). I'm just trying not to get hurt at this point.
 
NBA 2017-2018 Futures are out. Boston 3rd favorite behind only the two teams that are playing tonight. I sense I'm tearing up 😂 I'm so happy.
 
I can absolutely see that. Right now, Vegas is wagering that Boston makes a big move (Jimmy Butler or Paul George). It may not even involve this year's 1 but next year's New Jersey pick instead. An addition of a big time talent like that and another solid big, Cleveland and Boston will be waging quite a battle in next year's Eastern Conference Finals.
 
Interesting to see the rumors that the Celts and Sixers are discussing swapping 1 for 3.

Either Celts are not sold on Flutz or just feel they have too many guards to add another with the #1 overall pick. If a trade comes thru, will be interesting to see the compensation they get back.

On the Cavs front, Kevin Love trade rumors are heating up. Coming off his best year, there is sentiment in Cleveland to trade while his stock his high again to hopefully get the pieces to help deal with the Warriors next year. When looking at the roster and the salary cap situation, the only way to make a big change is to deal Love to get hopefully the right pieces (maybe Paul George) to offensively deal with what seems like an inevitable 4th consecutive matchup with the Warriors next spring.
 
Go KNICKS. You know Boston and Cleveland can slog it out at the top next year but eventually but King James is gonna opt out in 2018 - just watch. And in 2018 Isiah Thomas will be 30 something, hmmm.
 
So is Ainge the best exec from that old Celtic team? You have Bird in Indiana and McHale has been fired from a couple of different places.....
 
Dino, Cavs will almost certainly trade Irving at this point and Ainge has reportedly asked them to keep him in the loop. The Cavs will no doubt get some big offers (much bigger packages than say Cousins, George or Butler commanded recently) for a star point guard under control for the next two years at a modest contract compared to what others are making who has probably not reached his full potential.

If Boston comes up with a package around Thomas, Crowder, Brooklyn's pick next year and the Memphis pick later on that may be enough to entice the Cavs to pull the trigger even with an Eastern Conference rival. Do you think Ainge would consider such a package?
 
Im not sure the Cavs would send Kyrie to Boston no matter what. Boston was already on their heels and they grabbed the #1 seed last year already.

I got a feeling Pat Riley is going to be heard from despite the word that the Cavs and Heat cant make a deal cuz of LeBron.
 
I think the Cavs would make a deal with anyone, Heat and Celtics included, if an offer blew them away.

As for the Heat, they just don't have the package. Dragic is 31 and Winslow is good but had a bad year. And the Heat can't deal any first round picks until 2023. They would have to find a third team to make any sort of package work. But third teams in NBA teams are generally salary dumps. So though I think the Cavs would do business with Riley if it were right, it just doesn't fit.

The reason Boston might work is they have the assets. I think any Kyrie deal for the Cavs will involve draft picks and win now players. The Celtics have that. The Cavs might see it as a package that still keeps them on top this year and protects them in case the unthinkable happens again. The Celtics have been hoarding assets waiting for a young star. Thomas is a free agent in line for a big pay day that Boston may not want to do. Kyrie replaces him and is under a reasonable contract. It really could happen if Boston would be finally willing to part with the assets.
 
oubobcat said:
I think the Cavs would make a deal with anyone, Heat and Celtics included, if an offer blew them away.

As for the Heat, they just don't have the package. Dragic is 31 and Winslow is good but had a bad year. And the Heat can't deal any first round picks until 2023. They would have to find a third team to make any sort of package work. But third teams in NBA teams are generally salary dumps. So though I think the Cavs would do business with Riley if it were right, it just doesn't fit.

The reason Boston might work is they have the assets. I think any Kyrie deal for the Cavs will involve draft picks and win now players. The Celtics have that. The Cavs might see it as a package that still keeps them on top this year and protects them in case the unthinkable happens again. The Celtics have been hoarding assets waiting for a young star. Thomas is a free agent in line for a big pay day that Boston may not want to do. Kyrie replaces him and is under a reasonable contract. It really could happen if Boston would be finally willing to part with the assets.
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I think they did away with the rule preventing teams from trading 1st rd picks on back to back years or am I off on that?
 
miguel1 said:
I think they did away with the rule preventing teams from trading 1st rd picks on back to back years or am I off on that?
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Yes that is still correct. However, since the picks above did not belong originally to Boston they can be dealt anytime. It is the team's own first round selection the rule applies.

By the way, the rule for not trading consecutive first round picks was named after former Cavs owner Ted Stepien (The Stepien). Stepian, when he took control of the Cavs, wanted to turn them into an overnight contender and made a series of disastrous trades involving multiple draft picks to try to make the team better over night. It of course back fired big time and was so bad the NBA had to make a special rule. Of course, about 30 years later this did not stop another aggressive owner in Brooklyn from wanting to make his team better over night by dealing a multitude of draft picks for aging former stars much like Stepien once did. Of course, these picks were scattered way down the road due to that rule which is why Boston is still reaping benefits to this day.
 
They got their free agent but theyhavent pulled the trigger on PG or Butler or any of the big deals that have been floated.

I will also say this, if the Cavs do something that sends Kyrie to NYC for a package with Melo, they will never win another title.
 
I could certainly see something with Kyrie going to the Knicks in a Melo package. But the Cavs need more than Melo. It's very possible but could get complicated as a third team would certainly have to get involved.
 
oubobcat said:
Dino, Cavs will almost certainly trade Irving at this point and Ainge has reportedly asked them to keep him in the loop. The Cavs will no doubt get some big offers (much bigger packages than say Cousins, George or Butler commanded recently) for a star point guard under control for the next two years at a modest contract compared to what others are making who has probably not reached his full potential.

If Boston comes up with a package around Thomas, Crowder, Brooklyn's pick next year and the Memphis pick later on that may be enough to entice the Cavs to pull the trigger even with an Eastern Conference rival. Do you think Ainge would consider such a package?
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I swear I have not been part of the negotiations. But if rumors are true, we are soon about to have a deal like the one outlined above. Interesting to hear the take from Celtics fans. As a Cavs fan, I like it depending on what the picks are.
 
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