By Thomas Hauser
Adam Pollack has written eleven books about boxing's early gloved champions including a three-volume study of Jack Dempsey. Volume Three of the Dempsey trilogy (which covers The Manassa Mauler's ring career subsequent to Dempsey-Firpo) has just been published by Win by KO Publications.
Pollack (a former prosecutor and now a practicing criminal defense attorney in Iowa) is also an accomplished boxing referee. That leads to the question: "Would he have handled matters differently had he been the third man in the ring for Demsey vs. Luis Firpo and Dempsey's "long count" rematch against Gene Tunney?"
"Unless you're actually in the moment," Pollack answers, "it's hard to know how you'd handle situations like that. And I prefer to let readers decide things on their own. I just lay out the evidence and let readers make their own judgments."
But when pressed, Pollack offers some thoughts.
The referee for Dempsey-Firpo was Johnny Gallagher. Firpo was knocked down seven times in round one while dropping Dempsey on flash knockdowns twice. Then he knocked Dempsey through the ropes into the press secton with a hellacious righthand before being knocked out himself in the second round.
"The neutral corner rule was in existence at the time of Dempsey-Firpo," Pollack recounts. "But it was rarely enforced at that time. There was a fair amount of criticism of Gallagher for not enforcing the rule to the extent that he allowed Dempsey to hit Firpo as soon as Firpo's glove left the canvas rather than making Dempsey wait until Firpo was in an on-guard standing position and ready to defend himself. In fact, that criticism led directly to the rule being highlighted in the referees' instructions before both Dempsey-Tunney fights. If I'd been the referee for Dempsey-Firpo, using the accepted 1923 standard, I would habe made Dempsey take a few steps back and not allowed him to aproach until Firpo was totally upright. But I would not have required him to go to a neutral corner."
"As for Dempsey being knocked through the ropes," Pollack continues, "back then, a fighter who was knocked out of the ring had ten seconds to get back in, not twenty seconds the way it is today. The consensus is that Dempsey beat the ten-count and didn't get any help from the writers. Just because someone is pushing you off of them doesn't mean they're helping you."
As for the long-count controversy in Tunney-Dempsey II, Pollack states, "There's an argument that Dave Barry [the referee] should have picked up the count at four and not started at 'one' when Dempsey finally went to the far neutral corner. But Barry was within his rights to handle the situation the way he did. I could go either way on it. And people forget that Dempsey didn't stay in the neutral corner. He was practically halfway across the ring, coming in for the kill at the count of nine, and Barry ignored it."
Does Pollack think that Tunney would have beaten the count if he'd had only ten seconds to work with rather than fourteen?
"It's speculation," Adam answers. "Looking at the films, I think Tunney could have gotten up within the first ten seconds. But he probably would have been a bit dazed and more vulnerable to Dempsey's punches."
"Boxing is becoming a niche sport," Pollack adds in closing. "So you have fewer and fewer people writing about boxing history today. But I love the research. I love the learning. There are always surprises. The surprises are part of the fun for me. And I love taking readers back in time so they can relive the eras I'm writing about. I put a lot of time and effort into these books. I know there are people who appreciate them, and that's very gratifying to me. I'm not the one to judge, but I think my books will stand the test of time."
Yes, they will.
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SOME WORDS OF WISDOM FROM TRAINERS
Teddy Atlas: "Boxing has its share of beautiful stories. But it has sad ones too."
Charlie Goldman: "I always say to my guys, 'Don't tell 'em. Show 'em.'"
Willie Ketchum (who trained world champions Jimmy Carter, Antonio Cervantes, Lou Salica, Davey Moore, and Lew Jenkins): "They always quit at the wrong time. When it's too late, they see the light."
Donald Turner: "There’s a lot of bad people in boxing. And those people should know what kind of person I am. I live an honorable life. When I’m wrong, I admit it and apologize for what I did. But I’ll get in your face if I think you’re wrong. And I’ll come at you with a baseball bat if you try to take what’s mine."
And then there's the standard reply that Hall of Fame trainer Ray Arcel gave whenever he was asked about boxing's many ills: "It was ever thus."
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On August 24, a faded, stained, gray flannel shirt sold at auction at Heritage for $24,120,000.
Before you check your closet to see if you have any faded, stained, gray flannel shirts, keep in mind that we're talking about the jersey Babe Ruth is believed to have worn when he hit his famed "called shot" home run off Chicago Cubs pitcher Charlie Root in the 1932 World Series.
I say "believed" because the jersey has been examined by several respected photomatching authenticators. One of them - Resolution Photomatching - examined the jersey on three separate occasions and each time declined to confirm a match. When Resolution Photomatching went public with its reservations, Chris Ivy (director of sports auctions for Heritage) declared it “unfortunate that a company like Resolution would want to come out and say something like that."
In recent years, game-worn attire has become increasingly popular among collectors. In 2022, Sotheby's sold the jersey that Michael Jordan wore in Game 1 of the 1998 NBA Championship Finals for $10.1 million. That same year, the jersey Diego Maradona wore when he scored his "Hand of God" goal in the 1986 World Cup brought in $9.3 million.
The Babe Ruth jersey in question was sold at auction in 1999 at a time when it was described simply as a game-worn Babe Ruth road uniform. The price was $284,000. Six years later - with the "called shot" designation added to the description - it sold at auction for $940,000. Now the same jersey has sold for twenty-five times its 2005 price.
How do boxing trunks and robes stand up against these numbers?
Far behind.
Craig Hamilton is the foremost boxing memorabilia dealer in the United States. Asked about robes and trunks. Hamilton says that the most valuable piece of fight-worn memorabilia known to exist is the robe that Muhammad Ali wore when he reclaimed the heavyweight throne from George Foreman in Zaire. It sold at auction for $157,000 in 1997 and, in Hamilton's view, would bring several million dollars today.
"You have to remember;" Hamilton adds, "in 1997, sports memorabilia sales were fueled by collectors. Now the market is driven by investors. They might be fans too. But no matter how much they spend, the biggest spenders have their eye on the longterm bottom line."
And by the way; Babe Ruth loved boxing. He was a regular at ringside for big fights. There are numerous photos of Ruth in boxing poses (sometimes with his hands gloved) and also photos of Ruth with Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis. When the Boxing Writers Association of America (then known as the Boxing Writers Association of Greater New York) held its first annual dinner at the Hotel Astor on April 26, 1926, The Babe was there.
Thomas Hauser's email address is thomashauserwriter@gmail.com. His most recent book – MY MOTHER and me - is a personal memoir available at Amazon.com. https://www.amazon.com/My-Mother-Me-Thomas-Hauser/dp/1955836191/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5C0TEN4M9ZAH&keywords=thomas+hauser&qid=1707662513&sprefix=thomas+hauser%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-1
In 2004, the Boxing Writers Association of America honored Hauser with the Nat Fleischer Award for career excellence in boxing journalism. In 2019, Hauser was selected for boxing's highest honor - induction into the International Boxing Hall of Fame.
Adam Pollack has written eleven books about boxing's early gloved champions including a three-volume study of Jack Dempsey. Volume Three of the Dempsey trilogy (which covers The Manassa Mauler's ring career subsequent to Dempsey-Firpo) has just been published by Win by KO Publications.
Pollack (a former prosecutor and now a practicing criminal defense attorney in Iowa) is also an accomplished boxing referee. That leads to the question: "Would he have handled matters differently had he been the third man in the ring for Demsey vs. Luis Firpo and Dempsey's "long count" rematch against Gene Tunney?"
"Unless you're actually in the moment," Pollack answers, "it's hard to know how you'd handle situations like that. And I prefer to let readers decide things on their own. I just lay out the evidence and let readers make their own judgments."
But when pressed, Pollack offers some thoughts.
The referee for Dempsey-Firpo was Johnny Gallagher. Firpo was knocked down seven times in round one while dropping Dempsey on flash knockdowns twice. Then he knocked Dempsey through the ropes into the press secton with a hellacious righthand before being knocked out himself in the second round.
"The neutral corner rule was in existence at the time of Dempsey-Firpo," Pollack recounts. "But it was rarely enforced at that time. There was a fair amount of criticism of Gallagher for not enforcing the rule to the extent that he allowed Dempsey to hit Firpo as soon as Firpo's glove left the canvas rather than making Dempsey wait until Firpo was in an on-guard standing position and ready to defend himself. In fact, that criticism led directly to the rule being highlighted in the referees' instructions before both Dempsey-Tunney fights. If I'd been the referee for Dempsey-Firpo, using the accepted 1923 standard, I would habe made Dempsey take a few steps back and not allowed him to aproach until Firpo was totally upright. But I would not have required him to go to a neutral corner."
"As for Dempsey being knocked through the ropes," Pollack continues, "back then, a fighter who was knocked out of the ring had ten seconds to get back in, not twenty seconds the way it is today. The consensus is that Dempsey beat the ten-count and didn't get any help from the writers. Just because someone is pushing you off of them doesn't mean they're helping you."
As for the long-count controversy in Tunney-Dempsey II, Pollack states, "There's an argument that Dave Barry [the referee] should have picked up the count at four and not started at 'one' when Dempsey finally went to the far neutral corner. But Barry was within his rights to handle the situation the way he did. I could go either way on it. And people forget that Dempsey didn't stay in the neutral corner. He was practically halfway across the ring, coming in for the kill at the count of nine, and Barry ignored it."
Does Pollack think that Tunney would have beaten the count if he'd had only ten seconds to work with rather than fourteen?
"It's speculation," Adam answers. "Looking at the films, I think Tunney could have gotten up within the first ten seconds. But he probably would have been a bit dazed and more vulnerable to Dempsey's punches."
"Boxing is becoming a niche sport," Pollack adds in closing. "So you have fewer and fewer people writing about boxing history today. But I love the research. I love the learning. There are always surprises. The surprises are part of the fun for me. And I love taking readers back in time so they can relive the eras I'm writing about. I put a lot of time and effort into these books. I know there are people who appreciate them, and that's very gratifying to me. I'm not the one to judge, but I think my books will stand the test of time."
Yes, they will.
***
SOME WORDS OF WISDOM FROM TRAINERS
Teddy Atlas: "Boxing has its share of beautiful stories. But it has sad ones too."
Charlie Goldman: "I always say to my guys, 'Don't tell 'em. Show 'em.'"
Willie Ketchum (who trained world champions Jimmy Carter, Antonio Cervantes, Lou Salica, Davey Moore, and Lew Jenkins): "They always quit at the wrong time. When it's too late, they see the light."
Donald Turner: "There’s a lot of bad people in boxing. And those people should know what kind of person I am. I live an honorable life. When I’m wrong, I admit it and apologize for what I did. But I’ll get in your face if I think you’re wrong. And I’ll come at you with a baseball bat if you try to take what’s mine."
And then there's the standard reply that Hall of Fame trainer Ray Arcel gave whenever he was asked about boxing's many ills: "It was ever thus."
***
On August 24, a faded, stained, gray flannel shirt sold at auction at Heritage for $24,120,000.
Before you check your closet to see if you have any faded, stained, gray flannel shirts, keep in mind that we're talking about the jersey Babe Ruth is believed to have worn when he hit his famed "called shot" home run off Chicago Cubs pitcher Charlie Root in the 1932 World Series.
I say "believed" because the jersey has been examined by several respected photomatching authenticators. One of them - Resolution Photomatching - examined the jersey on three separate occasions and each time declined to confirm a match. When Resolution Photomatching went public with its reservations, Chris Ivy (director of sports auctions for Heritage) declared it “unfortunate that a company like Resolution would want to come out and say something like that."
In recent years, game-worn attire has become increasingly popular among collectors. In 2022, Sotheby's sold the jersey that Michael Jordan wore in Game 1 of the 1998 NBA Championship Finals for $10.1 million. That same year, the jersey Diego Maradona wore when he scored his "Hand of God" goal in the 1986 World Cup brought in $9.3 million.
The Babe Ruth jersey in question was sold at auction in 1999 at a time when it was described simply as a game-worn Babe Ruth road uniform. The price was $284,000. Six years later - with the "called shot" designation added to the description - it sold at auction for $940,000. Now the same jersey has sold for twenty-five times its 2005 price.
How do boxing trunks and robes stand up against these numbers?
Far behind.
Craig Hamilton is the foremost boxing memorabilia dealer in the United States. Asked about robes and trunks. Hamilton says that the most valuable piece of fight-worn memorabilia known to exist is the robe that Muhammad Ali wore when he reclaimed the heavyweight throne from George Foreman in Zaire. It sold at auction for $157,000 in 1997 and, in Hamilton's view, would bring several million dollars today.
"You have to remember;" Hamilton adds, "in 1997, sports memorabilia sales were fueled by collectors. Now the market is driven by investors. They might be fans too. But no matter how much they spend, the biggest spenders have their eye on the longterm bottom line."
And by the way; Babe Ruth loved boxing. He was a regular at ringside for big fights. There are numerous photos of Ruth in boxing poses (sometimes with his hands gloved) and also photos of Ruth with Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis. When the Boxing Writers Association of America (then known as the Boxing Writers Association of Greater New York) held its first annual dinner at the Hotel Astor on April 26, 1926, The Babe was there.
Thomas Hauser's email address is thomashauserwriter@gmail.com. His most recent book – MY MOTHER and me - is a personal memoir available at Amazon.com. https://www.amazon.com/My-Mother-Me-Thomas-Hauser/dp/1955836191/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5C0TEN4M9ZAH&keywords=thomas+hauser&qid=1707662513&sprefix=thomas+hauser%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-1
In 2004, the Boxing Writers Association of America honored Hauser with the Nat Fleischer Award for career excellence in boxing journalism. In 2019, Hauser was selected for boxing's highest honor - induction into the International Boxing Hall of Fame.
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